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= **__A Proud Taste For Scarlet And Miniver Wiki-posts__** = = **__Started: March 23rd, 2012__** = = **__Alexandre Nadaud__** =

**A Proud Taste for Scarlet and Miniver Wiki-Post 1:**
March 23, 2012 - the new power and wealth that Louis and Eleanor are now in control of and how they now control France. ||
 * 1) Eleanor and Louis were betrothed to each other later than was typical of betrothals during the 12 century. Why was this? Why wasn't Eleanor betrothed as a younger child? What does this tell us about her family? Why wasn't Louis betrothed at a young age?
 * 2)  The reason that Eleanor and Louis were betrothed later is because Louis was never suppose to marry. He was set to be a monk, and his brother, who died, to be the knight to marry and take the throne after his father Louis, the fat, would die. Eleanor was not betrothed because her grandfather and her father believed that they would never die and that they were immortal. Therefore they kept her to themselves. From this, Eleanor's family can be perceived as a very self proud people.
 * 3) Consider our current EQ: To what extent can a person's decisions and/or actions change his/her life and the lives of others? How has this been reflected in the behaviors, choices, and/or actions of Eleanor and Louis thus far? Provide specific examples and textual quotes to support your thoughts.
 * 4)  There has been many ways in how Eleanor and Louis have affected each other and people around them. One big way is how Eleanor is influencing Louis. Rather than the holy, peaceful life of monk, he is now someone who is constantly trying to prove himself to Eleanor that he is a man worthy of her. This makes him do many unholy things. Eleanor, however, isn't influenced easily. She has not really been anything but herself throughout the story. Outside of the marriage however, Eleanor's indirect influences on Louis have caused others to take actions. Now, since Eleanor is the queen she has dedicated herself to livening the castle. This does not appeal to everyone, especially Adelaide, mother of Louis and widow to Louis the fat, who is now dead. Adelaide was depicted in the story of complaining to Abbot Sugar, that she has been pushed out of Paris by Eleanor because of Eleanor's taste in decoration. Eleanor has decorated Adelaide's r oom by putting tapestries up of hunts. Adelaide has had these taken down again and again only to have them put back up. She ends up having enough and leaving with not only herself but leaving a decree for Abbot Sugar... to make sure to help Louis if he would ever come across a problem.
 * [[image:Kinglouis's_crown.jpg width="230" height="264" align="center"]] ||
 * The real crown of King Louis - This shows

**A Proud Taste for Scarlet and Miniver Wiki-post 2:**
March 27th, 2012 -


 * 1) Discuss the idea of Divine Justice and why Abbot Bernard thinks Geoffrey died because of this. IF Divine Justice DOES exist, how does it connect with our EQ: To what extent can a person's decisions and/or actions change his/her life and the lives of others?
 * 2) If Divine Justice were to exist the world would be in a lot of harsh pain and suffering because of our sins. I do not personally believe Divine Justice is completely true but, in some ways it is. Abbot Bernard believed that Geoffrey had died because of Divine Justice, and because of his past sins, but it is a little strange because Geoffrey died right after he was restored with the church, and able to worship again. I think he died more of as a unfortunate event that a punishment from heaven. If Divine Justice were to be applied to others, many, many people would be punished. I can even say that I could easily be punished. Everyone indirectly sins sometimes and even though we try not to sometimes it still happens. I do think after a while Divine Justice would have a big affect on people and make people much more enticed not to sin and therefore not be punished.
 * 3) Why are Eleanor and Matilda against Becket being appointed archbishop? Why was Henry for it? What might the outcome be?
 * 4) Eleanor and Matilda are against Thomas Becket becoming Archbishop of Canterbury because they know he will side with the instead of siding with the king. Henry was for Becket being the archbishop because tha t would mean he has one of his own men in a high rank in the clergy so he could be one step closer to his goal of being able to go into trial with clergy members and be able to prosecute them in a government court. Matilda and Eleanor end up being correct in the end because Becket sides with the church. This leads to a big war between whats really Henry and Becket.
 * [[image:notredamechruch.jpg align="center"]] ||
 * Notre Dame Church located in Paris, France - The power of the Church cannot be underestimated and it has pushed people to build amazing structures like this gigantic church. If it can compel people this much, than making a man like Thomas Becket side with the church against Henry is minor in comparison. ||

**A Proud Taste for Scarlet and Miniver Wiki-post 3:**
April 2nd, 2012 -


 * 1) Consider the EQ: To what extent can a person's decisions and/or actions change his/her life or the lives of others? Now, how do Eleanor and King Henry's methods of teaching differ? How do their methods connect to the EQ and affect the lives of Young Henry and Richard? Be specific in your responses and discuss BOTH characters.
 * 2) King Henry and Eleanor have very different ways of teaching their children, and their point. King Henry prefers to put out his point and if someone disagrees with him and goes against him he gets mad. An example of this is in chapter 4, William the Marshal’s tale, “Your father expects you to stay in the nest forever, my sons... I’m afraid you have no right to give him (John) anything else.” “I have every right! I built the nest. Those castles and estates are mine...” (Konigsburg 144) In this case, Eleanor is telling her sons that their father, King Henry, will never let them rule and she tells King Henry that he has no right to give John, their youngest son, any more castles or estates other than Ireland because Young Henry has been crowned. Eleanor, however, has taught the sons the truth and she has thought out what she is tr ying to state. She ends up turning the sons, Richard and Young Henry, against their father because she wants to get back at him for putting her as “number two” along with Rosamond Clifford.
 * 3) Consider the Courts of Love established by Eleanor and Marie. Also consider the articles read in class based on the rules of courtly love (the WebQuest). How have those rules affected how men treat women today? When/where do we see these played out the most?
 * 4) There are many places where the Courts of Love have affected life. This took a big role in Chivalry, where traditionally the knight would have to treat ladies with respect and show them their greatest gratitude by doing tasks for them and showing them their love for them. Chivalry is now considered dead, or if not, very uncommon because many women agree that many men do not treat them with respect. Some everyday things that Chivalry has affected are the habits of opening doors for women, having the mindset of “ladies first”, and simple things liking helping them in case of need. There are places that actually teach Chivalry like Catilion.
 * [[image:chivalry-modern-knight.jpg width="257" height="168" align="center"]] ||
 * This picture shows a man with a knight's helmet dancing with a woman. The reason the man is wearing the knights helmet is because the artist probably wanted to show that the chivalry and good nature of men towards women came from the time knights roamed the land. ||